[Nolose-outreach] Getting moving on outreach

Devra Polack devra at webspinster.com
Wed Apr 2 14:01:12 EST 2008


Hi, all--

Sorry, limited time to deal with a lot of details here lately--so am 
cranking this out in a somewhat disorganized way just to get back to 
folks so things can keep moving--

If ads can go out in May, that would definitely be better--as June 
probably actually is too late for some publications. Getting deadlines 
is kind of key in the r&d... some issues come out in July or Aug., and 
that's great, too, but the deadlines are always earlier.

The other consideration is that we don't have a giant ad budget, and 
some (like Curve and Bitch) have skyrocketed and are quite expensive and 
possibly of our range. Good to ask for nonprofit rates and ad 
exchanges.We have $1000 maximum for advertising. Which is not a lot, and 
yet it is also a small conference. This is where the online posting  and 
cross-posting (using a graphic/logo is preferable where allowed) is key.

--In terms of local-area print ads, I think it's much more bang for the 
buck/higher priority in the region (Massachusetts/NE). But free listings 
in local rags/calendars/online orgs all over are great.

--We definitely spent more for 05 than 06, since we were capping 
attendance at our retreat and spent less on outreach. Our bigger $ went 
to Bitch, Color Lines, Lesbian Connection and we also had various ads in 
conference journals like Trans Health, Femme Conf. (I think?), a gender 
conference at NYU. We also had 2 experiences of submitting ads and 
payment to conferences and having the ads returned ignored, which may be 
due to a fluke, or may have been deliberate.

Attached is the Outreach Budget from 06, which includes info on ads from 
05-06 toward the bottom (including direct contacts and now outdated 
price info).

Thanks, ad people, for running with it!

Oh, and Max, yes, it is just the 5 of us on this list (you, Sarah, me, 
Zoe, Joe).
xoxo
Devra

Sarah Lynn Doherty wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
>
>     Ok, so the one thing that seems oddly timed is the print ads not
>     getting started until June. Maybe it just feels that we because
>     we're working with a bit less time than usual. Seems to be that it
>     would be ideal if print ads started *appearing* in June. Though I
>     don't have a good sense of how important the print ads really are
>     to overall outreach.
>
>
> Print ads should start appearing in June, if only to get one in 
> Transgender Tapestry in time for the summer or fall issue...also, June 
> is Pride month. And various cities have Pride Guides that we might be 
> able to buy advertisements in, but only if we move fast.
>  
>
>     Where have print ads run before?
>
>
> According to the last meeting minutes
> (on the Nolose-outreach list archives here: 
> http://nolose.org/pipermail/nolose-outreach_nolose.org/2008-March/000001.html)
> Devra sent everybody a spreadsheet with the last conference's ad 
> quotes, though ads weren't in every publication that gave us a quote. 
> I actually wasn't part of the committee on the 18th, so I need a copy. 
> Anybody? Thanks!
>  
>
>     Where should print ads run this time? 
>
>
> I think that is to be decided, partially based on pricing and 
> partially based on our target  audiences.
>
>     Who are we reaching out to? Supersize people, fat people, queers,
>     trans folks, people of color, social justice activists... Those
>     are the groups I want to reach out to. 
>
>
> Also people with disabilities.
>  
>
>     What are people reading, anyway? What are the folks in our target
>     groups reading?
>
>
> Print magazine/newspaper-wise, I know about:
>
> NYANSAPO (National Black Justice Coalition magazine)
> Trikone magazine (magazine for people of South Asian descent)
> Aggressive (magazine for butch & FTM people of color)
> Colorlines (progressive lefty mag about race, culture, activism)
> Transgender Tapestry (the ifge pub. historically mostly geared toward 
> transwomen, but not exclusively)
> Poz Magazine (for people living with HIV/AIDS)
> Curve and the Advocate are sort of white and bourgie but are pretty 
> widely read and easy to get.
> Bitch Magazine (feminist mag)
> Village Voice
> SF Pride Guide
> Bay Windows in Boston
> BiWomen newsletter out of the Bisexual Resource Center
> Lesbian Connections which is nothing but letters and ads
>
> I know of a score of smaller local newspapers or newsletters in 
> central New York, and Ohio and Idaho and New Jersey. I can get 
> information about local stuff in the south, especially southeast, from 
> my boss when she gets back into town.
>
> And for people with disabilities--a lot of newsletters and magazines 
> are online (Ragged Edge, Ouch!, DeafQueer, Bent, etc.), but New 
> Mobility has been in print for a long time, and my local independence 
> center puts out a newsletter that runs ads and I bet they could help 
> me find other newsletters for other areas. I'm not sure if 
> Kaleidoscope Magazine publishes ads, but the next issue comes out in 
> July so it might be worth asking about.
>
> And--there are two conferences in LA on fat stuff, the NAAFA one and 
> the HAES one, in the middle of July. I bet there are conference 
> booklets we might be able to get into, if we haven't already. Also, 
> Stefanie and I are giving a workshop on diversity & fat activism with 
> a particular look at the queer community's intersections with fat 
> communities, and we were going to put folders of handouts together. 
> We'd planned to include some kind of something about NOLOSE!
>
>
>     Meeting: week after next, I can meet evenings of Monday 14th,
>     Tuesday 15th, or Thursday 17th.
>
>
> I can meet Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and possibly (but hopefully 
> not) Thursday.
>  
> Big fat queer love!
>
> Sarah
>  
>
>     On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 10:47 PM, Devra Polack
>     <devra at webspinster.com <mailto:devra at webspinster.com>> wrote:
>
>         Hey dahlink.
>
>         Good questions!
>
>         1) We don't have an Outreach mtg. scheduled, shall we set one?
>         Unfortunately, next week is totally booked for me. Are you
>         guys available to meet in the eve. some night the week after?
>         This week is out, since there's a NOLOSE Board mtg. and
>         Programming also met, which is a grueling 2-mtg. week for some.
>
>         Okay, in terms of design and ads and mailing party timeline,
>         here's what I proposed to Board folks last week (wanted to
>         make sure the finance and financial assistance folks would be
>         able to figure pricing out by late April in order for us to
>         get registration materials going and out the door in May).
>
>         I'm good w/doing the card design (have pieced out a chunk of
>         time this weekend to get started). We'll be getting
>         Programming updates at our Board mtg. this thursday, so can
>         confirm theme first.
>
>         That said, how does the timeline below look to you guys?
>         xoxo
>         Devra
>
>         (oh, and I'll check in w/Robin soon. I didn't get the
>         impression she had her heart set on the outreach vol. stuff at
>         all, and I think was just willing to step in for more if need
>         be; but it really does not hurt to check... thanks for the
>         heads up, sweets.)
>
>         Here's the proposed timeline I sent to the Board:
>
>         /Hey, folks--
>
>         In trying to figure out when to have a volunteer host our
>         mailing party (yay!), it occurs to me that a slew of things
>         need to happen before that mailing, and I wanted to make sure
>         everyone was on the same page in terms of timeline.
>
>         My guess is that we can put this into place for a May 31
>         mailing party. But if you think doing the mailing 3 months
>         ahead isn't too late (our call for proposals will be going out
>         first), June might give us more leeway. The past couple of
>         conferences, I think it was 4 months in advance.
>
>         1) What do you think is more strategic for our big mailing,
>         May 31 or mid-June?
>         2) Do you guys think the following is feasible for this
>         timeframe? Let me know. I can do my part, but want to make
>         sure everyone else is on board.
>
>         --FA and registration fees (sliding scale, deadlines, etc.).
>         *Finance folks: estimated date of figuring out FA app and fee
>         structure for us to include in reg. materials? *That's the
>         stuff I'll need in order to crank out:
>
>         --Online registration and print registration forms. (Also, Joe
>         will be compiling/writing the cover letter.)
>
>         --Since my work situation is now less frenzied and dire
>         (hallelujah on finding a tenant), I'm taking a stab at the
>         card design. This will also give us more time and leeway to
>         shop around for someone to take care of print ads and program
>         layout, which happen later--and so we can shop that out for
>         $300 instead of $500. I'm aiming to have this into the printer
>         by end of April, possibly sooner (depending), and can start
>         next week if our theme is nailed down. It's about 2 weeks or
>         so to print and ship. And the shipping guru person
>         distributing the cards around will then need to ship 800 or so
>         of these to whoever is doing the Big Mailing Party.
>
>         So, if Finance is able to figure our pricing and FA
>         requirements in the next 4 weeks, I think we can give a thumbs
>         up on a May 31 mailing party. Otherwise, later.
>
>         Let me know what y'all think--
>         xoxo
>         Devra/
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>         Max Airborne wrote:
>>         Hey folks,
>>
>>         I have a few items of committee business.
>>
>>         1. Do we have a meeting scheduled?
>>
>>         2. Design for 2008 conference materials: What's the status?
>>         Are we hiring out?
>>
>>         3. Print ads -- I guess this needs to wait for a design, eh?
>>
>>         4. Outreach volunteer status:
>>
>>         Mailing party host: Stefanie Snider in L.A, who has recruited
>>         8-10 people to help.
>>
>>         Postcard handler/distributor: Laura Spalding in Northhampton
>>         (never been to nolose -- has anyone met her?)
>>
>>         Street outreach (postcard distro): we have folks for bay
>>         area, NoHo, and nowhere else. Once we're closer I'll recruit
>>         for this directly with people who live in key locations.
>>
>>         Internet outreach folks: Zoe Meleo Erwin, Stefanie Snider,
>>         Jodi Longobardo
>>
>>         Print ad team: Joe Libin and Sarah Doherty (do we need more
>>         folks here? tell me what's needed and I'll find it)
>>
>>         Design? Do you want me to find someone?
>>
>>         5. Does someone here have a good working relationship or
>>         friendship with Robin? I'm concerned that she's upset about
>>         the volunteer job split and could use a check-in of some
>>         sort. I tried, and am not sure I got anywhere, as she hasn't
>>         responded to me.
>>
>>         Ok, that's all for now.
>>
>>         Love, Max
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>
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