[Nolose-outreach] Getting moving on outreach

Thu Apr 3 09:01:51 EST 2008

I am kind of busy but I also committed to be part of this process.  So
yah, let's divy it up and I can start making contact with people this
week.

Joe

On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 9:21 PM, Sarah Lynn Doherty
<sarah.lynn.doherty at gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm happy to do that. Joe, are you too busy, or do you want to divvy up what
> we've thought of so far?
> Sarah
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 11:33 PM, zoe meleo-erwin <pinkprincesszoe at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> > hey folks, sorry to be so silent on this.  i say that Sarah get quotes
> from everywhere and anywhere that seems relevant and then we can see what
> fits best, though honestly i'm happy to let you just run with this.  as
> Devra said, there are some places that are way out of our budget so it's a
> matter of cost plus the timing of when things are coming out (i.e. in an
> ideal world we'd be on top of having generic/non-conference specific ads
> that came out in the booklets of events that happen at times that don't make
> sense for us to advertise for the conference but do make sense for us to
> advertise in in general, like the IDKE conference that happens in october).
> btw, i can't recall if this was on the list and it might be too late for us
> to have an ad appear but we might see about placing an ad/trading ads with
> the mid august femme conference.  just a thought--Zoe
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Devra Polack <devra at webspinster.com> wrote:
> > Hi, all--
> >
> > Sorry, limited time to deal with a lot of details here lately--so am
> cranking this out in a somewhat disorganized way just to get back to folks
> so things can keep moving--
> >
> > If ads can go out in May, that would definitely be better--as June
> probably actually is too late for some publications. Getting deadlines is
> kind of key in the r&d... some issues come out in July or Aug., and that's
> great, too, but the deadlines are always earlier.
> >
> > The other consideration is that we don't have a giant ad budget, and some
> (like Curve and Bitch) have skyrocketed and are quite expensive and possibly
> of our range. Good to ask for nonprofit rates and ad exchanges.We have $1000
> maximum for advertising. Which is not a lot, and yet it is also a small
> conference. This is where the online posting  and cross-posting (using a
> graphic/logo is preferable where allowed) is key.
> >
> > --In terms of local-area print ads, I think it's much more bang for the
> buck/higher priority in the region (Massachusetts/NE). But free listings in
> local rags/calendars/online orgs all over are great.
> >
> > --We definitely spent more for 05 than 06, since we were capping
> attendance at our retreat and spent less on outreach. Our bigger $ went to
> Bitch, Color Lines, Lesbian Connection and we also had various ads in
> conference journals like Trans Health, Femme Conf. (I think?), a gender
> conference at NYU. We also had 2 experiences of submitting ads and payment
> to conferences and having the ads returned ignored, which may be due to a
> fluke, or may have been deliberate.
> >
> > Attached is the Outreach Budget from 06, which includes info on ads from
> 05-06 toward the bottom (including direct contacts and now outdated price
> info).
> >
> > Thanks, ad people, for running with it!
> >
> > Oh, and Max, yes, it is just the 5 of us on this list (you, Sarah, me,
> Zoe, Joe).
> > xoxo
> > Devra
> >
> > Sarah Lynn Doherty wrote:
> > Hi guys,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Ok, so the one thing that seems oddly timed is the print ads not getting
> started until June. Maybe it just feels that we because we're working with a
> bit less time than usual. Seems to be that it would be ideal if print ads
> started *appearing* in June. Though I don't have a good sense of how
> important the print ads really are to overall outreach.
> > >
> >
> >
> > Print ads should start appearing in June, if only to get one in
> Transgender Tapestry in time for the summer or fall issue...also, June is
> Pride month. And various cities have Pride Guides that we might be able to
> buy advertisements in, but only if we move fast.
> >
> > > Where have print ads run before?
> >
> >
> > According to the last meeting minutes
> > (on the Nolose-outreach list archives here:
> http://nolose.org/pipermail/nolose-outreach_nolose.org/2008-March/000001.html)
> > Devra sent everybody a spreadsheet with the last conference's ad quotes,
> though ads weren't in every publication that gave us a quote. I actually
> wasn't part of the committee on the 18th, so I need a copy. Anybody? Thanks!
> >
> >
> > > Where should print ads run this time?
> >
> >
> > I think that is to be decided, partially based on pricing and partially
> based on our target  audiences.
> >
> >
> > > Who are we reaching out to? Supersize people, fat people, queers, trans
> folks, people of color, social justice activists... Those are the groups I
> want to reach out to.
> >
> >
> > Also people with disabilities.
> >
> > > What are people reading, anyway? What are the folks in our target groups
> reading?
> >
> >
> > Print magazine/newspaper-wise, I know about:
> >
> > NYANSAPO (National Black Justice Coalition magazine)
> > Trikone magazine (magazine for people of South Asian descent)
> > Aggressive (magazine for butch & FTM people of color)
> > Colorlines (progressive lefty mag about race, culture, activism)
> > Transgender Tapestry (the ifge pub. historically mostly geared toward
> transwomen, but not exclusively)
> > Poz Magazine (for people living with HIV/AIDS)
> > Curve and the Advocate are sort of white and bourgie but are pretty widely
> read and easy to get.
> > Bitch Magazine (feminist mag)
> > Village Voice
> > SF Pride Guide
> > Bay Windows in Boston
> > BiWomen newsletter out of the Bisexual Resource Center
> > Lesbian Connections which is nothing but letters and ads
> >
> > I know of a score of smaller local newspapers or newsletters in central
> New York, and Ohio and Idaho and New Jersey. I can get information about
> local stuff in the south, especially southeast, from my boss when she gets
> back into town.
> >
> > And for people with disabilities--a lot of newsletters and magazines are
> online (Ragged Edge, Ouch!, DeafQueer, Bent, etc.), but New Mobility has
> been in print for a long time, and my local independence center puts out a
> newsletter that runs ads and I bet they could help me find other newsletters
> for other areas. I'm not sure if Kaleidoscope Magazine publishes ads, but
> the next issue comes out in July so it might be worth asking about.
> >
> > And--there are two conferences in LA on fat stuff, the NAAFA one and the
> HAES one, in the middle of July. I bet there are conference booklets we
> might be able to get into, if we haven't already. Also, Stefanie and I are
> giving a workshop on diversity & fat activism with a particular look at the
> queer community's intersections with fat communities, and we were going to
> put folders of handouts together. We'd planned to include some kind of
> something about NOLOSE!
> >
> >
> >
> > > Meeting: week after next, I can meet evenings of Monday 14th, Tuesday
> 15th, or Thursday 17th.
> > >
> >
> >
> > I can meet Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and possibly (but hopefully not)
> Thursday.
> >
> > Big fat queer love!
> >
> > Sarah
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 10:47 PM, Devra Polack <devra at webspinster.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Hey dahlink.
> > > >
> > > > Good questions!
> > > >
> > > > 1) We don't have an Outreach mtg. scheduled, shall we set one?
> Unfortunately, next week is totally booked for me. Are you guys available to
> meet in the eve. some night the week after? This week is out, since there's
> a NOLOSE Board mtg. and Programming also met, which is a grueling 2-mtg.
> week for some.
> > > >
> > > > Okay, in terms of design and ads and mailing party timeline, here's
> what I proposed to Board folks last week (wanted to make sure the finance
> and financial assistance folks would be able to figure pricing out by late
> April in order for us to get registration materials going and out the door
> in May).
> > > >
> > > > I'm good w/doing the card design (have pieced out a chunk of time this
> weekend to get started). We'll be getting Programming updates at our Board
> mtg. this thursday, so can confirm theme first.
> > > >
> > > > That said, how does the timeline below look to you guys?
> > > > xoxo
> > > > Devra
> > > >
> > > > (oh, and I'll check in w/Robin soon. I didn't get the impression she
> had her heart set on the outreach vol. stuff at all, and I think was just
> willing to step in for more if need be; but it really does not hurt to
> check... thanks for the heads up, sweets.)
> > > >
> > > > Here's the proposed timeline I sent to the Board:
> > > >
> > > > Hey, folks--
> > > >
> > > > In trying to figure out when to have a volunteer host our mailing
> party (yay!), it occurs to me that a slew of things need to happen before
> that mailing, and I wanted to make sure everyone was on the same page in
> terms of timeline.
> > > >
> > > > My guess is that we can put this into place for a May 31 mailing
> party. But if you think doing the mailing 3 months ahead isn't too late (our
> call for proposals will be going out first), June might give us more leeway.
> The past couple of conferences, I think it was 4 months in advance.
> > > >
> > > > 1) What do you think is more strategic for our big mailing, May 31 or
> mid-June?
> > > > 2) Do you guys think the following is feasible for this timeframe? Let
> me know. I can do my part, but want to make sure everyone else is on board.
> > > >
> > > > --FA and registration fees (sliding scale, deadlines, etc.). Finance
> folks: estimated date of figuring out FA app and fee structure for us to
> include in reg. materials? That's the stuff I'll need in order to crank out:
> > > >
> > > > --Online registration and print registration forms. (Also, Joe will be
> compiling/writing the cover letter.)
> > > >
> > > > --Since my work situation is now less frenzied and dire (hallelujah on
> finding a tenant), I'm taking a stab at the card design. This will also give
> us more time and leeway to shop around for someone to take care of print ads
> and program layout, which happen later--and so we can shop that out for $300
> instead of $500. I'm aiming to have this into the printer by end of April,
> possibly sooner (depending), and can start next week if our theme is nailed
> down. It's about 2 weeks or so to print and ship. And the shipping guru
> person distributing the cards around will then need to ship 800 or so of
> these to whoever is doing the Big Mailing Party.
> > > >
> > > > So, if Finance is able to figure our pricing and FA requirements in
> the next 4 weeks, I think we can give a thumbs up on a May 31 mailing party.
> Otherwise, later.
> > > >
> > > > Let me know what y'all think--
> > > > xoxo
> > > > Devra
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Max Airborne wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hey folks,
> > > >
> > > > I have a few items of committee business.
> > > >
> > > > 1. Do we have a meeting scheduled?
> > > >
> > > > 2. Design for 2008 conference materials: What's the status? Are we
> hiring out?
> > > >
> > > > 3. Print ads -- I guess this needs to wait for a design, eh?
> > > >
> > > > 4. Outreach volunteer status:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Mailing party host: Stefanie Snider in L.A, who has recruited 8-10
> people to help.
> > > >
> > > > Postcard handler/distributor: Laura Spalding in Northhampton (never
> been to nolose -- has anyone met her?)
> > > >
> > > > Street outreach (postcard distro): we have folks for bay area, NoHo,
> and nowhere else. Once we're closer I'll recruit for this directly with
> people who live in key locations.
> > > >
> > > > Internet outreach folks: Zoe Meleo Erwin, Stefanie Snider, Jodi
> Longobardo
> > > >
> > > > Print ad team: Joe Libin and Sarah Doherty (do we need more folks
> here? tell me what's needed and I'll find it)
> > > >
> > > > Design? Do you want me to find someone?
> > > >
> > > > 5. Does someone here have a good working relationship or friendship
> with Robin? I'm concerned that she's upset about the volunteer job split and
> could use a check-in of some sort. I tried, and am not sure I got anywhere,
> as she hasn't responded to me.
> > > >
> > > > Ok, that's all for now.
> > > >
> > > > Love, Max
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > > ...................................
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> on my 1988 movie, succeeds is that if it is a hit, there will be high-school
> productions, and finally the fat girl and the drag queen will get the
> starring parts." -John Waters
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> > "it is not the consciousness of men that determines their being; on the
> contrary it is their social being that determines their consciousness."  -
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> proposition about the nature of things." --Charles Lemert
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